tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post7531602679808923926..comments2023-07-23T13:13:45.533+02:00Comments on En lejemorder ser tilbage: Bruce is a many splendoured thingJack Jhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17922020382952236097noreply@blogger.comBlogger145125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-90142396974301725732010-05-21T07:29:12.596+02:002010-05-21T07:29:12.596+02:00Xanthor, if you can't find it you can either l...Xanthor, if you can't find it you can either look to the top right where the most recent comments are listed - or use this link:<br /><br />http://enlejemordersertilbage.blogspot.com/2010/05/even-byzantine-women-know-true-meaning.htmlJack Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17922020382952236097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-12975945167986355442010-05-21T07:11:06.069+02:002010-05-21T07:11:06.069+02:00ATTENTION XANTHOR !!!!! I've replied to your c...ATTENTION XANTHOR !!!!! I've replied to your comments on a new thread.This one is getting to be too long.You can read the replies on the "even byzantine women know the true meaning of..." karamurat thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-91290899838260462732010-05-20T19:39:00.435+02:002010-05-20T19:39:00.435+02:00just found a new one!
http://www.nartube.com/5a74...just found a new one!<br /><br />http://www.nartube.com/5a74a071d40f443b7a14a7540f2578ea34d3e6e2:Z-TOkjdutCY.htmlxanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-49797614485245659262010-05-20T19:34:16.652+02:002010-05-20T19:34:16.652+02:00Anonymous: check out those Uighur Erkan Koray link...Anonymous: check out those Uighur Erkan Koray links I sent before.<br />suddenly I can watch them again!<br />I already was using youtubeunblock, but not sure if this matters (it didnt help before).<br />let me know if u can watch these now;<br /><br />if so, how can u download to your pc?xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-68417905974786577862010-05-13T08:51:07.960+02:002010-05-13T08:51:07.960+02:00'guess what i can't access those uygur gui...'guess what i can't access those uygur guitar clips too.access denied comes up then a message saying your computer is full of viruses.sounds a bit fishy.'<br /><br />it definitely sounds fish. I just tried and for the 1st time I got 'access denied or video not found' but nothing about my comp being fool of viruses. you can try what I do to get around this-- use a proxy such as vtunnel, ktunnel, or youtubeunblock-- there are a number of them.<br />I just tried youtubeunblock and one of the others and neither worked. at the bottom it said they only block youtube which isn't what they promise.<br />damn. I've been watching these videos for 4 months.<br />I wonder if people other than turkey and australia would be blocked?xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-55060246345955422692010-05-13T08:27:16.672+02:002010-05-13T08:27:16.672+02:00guess what i can't access those uygur guitar c...guess what i can't access those uygur guitar clips too.access denied comes up then a message saying your computer is full of viruses.sounds a bit fishy.i only managed to get the first clip.you tube doesn't have these videos only an uighur version of hotel california and some trad stuff.too bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-36923195295618744112010-05-13T08:17:56.187+02:002010-05-13T08:17:56.187+02:00I definitely know about dennis tek.
an old girlfri...I definitely know about dennis tek.<br />an old girlfriend of mine was either friends with him or rob younger. then she married the lead singer of SPK.xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-84670477992628526492010-05-13T08:06:02.079+02:002010-05-13T08:06:02.079+02:00for the most part I don't think there is any a...for the most part I don't think there is any aussie turkish rock that's any good.you might know deniz tek ?? originally a turkish american who came to australia in the early 70s and formed the ozzie cult band the radio birdmen with rob younger etc etc.i think he hailed from the same place as the stooges,iggy pop & so on.anyway he has done some solo albums with a saz included in the mix.haven't heard any of his solo work but all this was revealed in a turkish newspaper interview with him about 15 years ago.he is also a doctor and was a jet fighter pilot/medic for the us armed forces.sounds far fetched but it's all true.<br /><br /><br />http://deniztek.com/index_msie768.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-35206868516804417112010-05-13T07:04:03.822+02:002010-05-13T07:04:03.822+02:00'there are a few aussie turkish rock bands'...'there are a few aussie turkish rock bands'<br />are they any good?<br /><br />'in the 70s&80s there were mainly musicians who use to perform turkish music... with keyboards, guitars,drums & saz but I wouldn't have called it rock music.'<br /><br />there was trad stuff in '70s turkey that slid into rock-- I use to have a psychedelic bellydance album for example. and there were bands that did both.<br /><br />'I'm not into modern sounds ie post 1970s music,I prefer listening to vintage music.'<br />for the most part, that's true for me too.<br /><br />'those clips by the replikas on v tunnel are blocked.warning dangerous content security risk comes up'<br /><br />ooh, so dangerous. vtunnel stopped working for me, so I switched to another proxy.<br /><br />'but I watched the 'cicek dag' clip on you tube it was excellent.almost a note for note copy of koray's version.Was this off a mobile phone movie or with a proper video camera.'<br />I have no idea. but you should check out more of their videos on youtube-- they're excellent. they've been hinting at doing an anadolu rock covers album for years.<br />it would be easy cause they have plenty that they do on occasion in concert and do very well.<br /><br />'might download those uygur guitarist clips and extract the audio and burn them onto a cd to listen to in the car.'<br /><br />I wish I knew how to do that.<br />I'd like to make copies of the videos themselves (if I knew how).xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-62299016244039161822010-05-13T06:36:16.878+02:002010-05-13T06:36:16.878+02:00those clips by the replikas on v tunnel are blocke...those clips by the replikas on v tunnel are blocked.warning dangerous content security risk comes up but I watched the 'cicek dag' clip on you tube it was excellent.almost a note for note copy of koray's version.Was this off a mobile phone movie or with a proper video camera.might download those uygur guitarist clips and extract the audio and burn them onto a cd to listen to in the car.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-10620588964749964032010-05-13T06:17:54.073+02:002010-05-13T06:17:54.073+02:00.......from now in australia there's one calle..........from now in australia there's one called unified gecko but I don't like their music.There's more of those wedding bands and hip hop djs etc.There's probably more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-4048564194106018992010-05-13T06:07:12.760+02:002010-05-13T06:07:12.760+02:00there are a few aussie turkish rock bands now but ...there are a few aussie turkish rock bands now but back in the 70s&80s there were mainly musicians who use to perform turkish music at weddings and parties with keyboards,guitars,drums & saz but I wouldn't have called it rock music.I'm not into modern sounds ie post 1970s music,I prefer listening to vintage music.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-79615714982672286912010-05-13T05:32:00.526+02:002010-05-13T05:32:00.526+02:00and now both msgs are here!
I always wondered why...and now both msgs are here!<br /><br />I always wondered why no other US band used a saz. I know of one band that used a buzuki (FORUM QUORUM- who I saw on the Mike Douglas tv show). they had a so-so album and an unreleased soundtrack.<br />in the '60s&'70s there were so many local ethnic music scenes but almost nothing moved over to rock.For ex., in the boston area there were at least 4 or more labels: a turkish label in woburn, greek, armenian, etc. and I know that this was true in many other areas. its like the 1st generation clung to their roots and their children just completely abandoned them. in aussie, did any turk roots music makes its way over to rock or pop.<br />I just remembered: the only hit single to feature a bouzuki in america: BEND IT by dave dee, dozy beaky, mick and tish (and their only US hit).xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-47637552257112393122010-05-13T05:06:39.956+02:002010-05-13T05:06:39.956+02:00Also,if you had watched turkish movies in the 70s&...Also,if you had watched turkish movies in the 70s&80s in the cinemas or later on video you would've heard mogollar,cahit berkay,baris manco,metin alatli,timur selcuk etc used as soundtrack music.I only got into this stuff in the late 90s but i had probably heard a lot of this music in turkish movies without realising who the artists were and what kind of music they were playing.<br /> had to rewrite this message the one before disappeared for some reason??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-74404460770617009562010-05-13T05:06:22.070+02:002010-05-13T05:06:22.070+02:00Anonymous: I just got notified about yr latest com...Anonymous: I just got notified about yr latest comment but it didn't show up so here it is:<br /><br />'I heard mogollar,manco,zafer dilek,metin alatli and others through 70s turkish movies without knowing who these artists were and what kind of music it was.later on when I got hold of some of this stuff in the late 90s and early 2000s,I recognised some of the stuff (especially mogollar,metin alatli and the stuff on the trt ara muzik lps) that I had heard from watching yesilcam movies in the 70s and 80s.'<br /><br />I didn't see any turkish films until the '90s (except for yilmaz guney) when friends in istanbul made me vhs copies but these were not the sort of films that used the above music.xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-27008399802386840042010-05-13T04:54:32.113+02:002010-05-13T04:54:32.113+02:00I heard mogollar,manco,zafer dilek,metin alatli an...I heard mogollar,manco,zafer dilek,metin alatli and others through 70s turkish movies without knowing who these artists were and what kind of music it was.later on when I got hold of some of this stuff in the late 90s and early 2000s,I recognised some of the stuff (especially mogollar,metin alatli and the stuff on the trt ara muzik lps) that I had heard from watching yesilcam movies in the 70s and 80s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-5856109332257704042010-05-13T04:31:03.740+02:002010-05-13T04:31:03.740+02:00'baris manco,erkin koray,cem karaca and others...'baris manco,erkin koray,cem karaca and others all came to australia to play concerts for the australian turkish community in the early to mid 70s.'<br />except for baris, I didn't know this.I've never heard anything about them or others coming to play in the usa. but back in the '90s, I heard of some cool moroccan groups playing in boston for the local moroccan community but I'd always find out too late. so there must have been others. I was really only tuned into the indian community cause I was studying n.indian music so I got to see sitar and slide guitarists.<br /><br />'I think mogollar's 1st record recorded in france was a world music hit all around the world for collectors of ethnic music,even though the record was a folk-psych album.'<br />I started collecting all types of turkish music about 1970 but not until I went to istanbul in '91 to find out for myself, did I hear of them or anyone else.<br /><br />'I don't know why it took so long for the rest of the world to recognise turkish rock(not including folk/belly dance records).Maybe it was the language barrier or most likely people didn't know that there was such a thing as anadolu/turkish rock'<br /><br />I don't think its the language barrier cause lots of stuff is now well-liked and most people don't understand from anadolu rock to omar suleyman to guitars of the golden triangle. I think that people just never had the chance to hear this stuff before. when deniz pinar played me all the anadolu rock greats in '91 it blew my mind-- this was the type of music I'd been searching for for 20 years since I'd heard Kaleidoscope.xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-80676977195771122982010-05-13T04:15:09.411+02:002010-05-13T04:15:09.411+02:00baris manco,erkin koray,cem karaca and others all ...baris manco,erkin koray,cem karaca and others all came to australia to play concerts for the australian turkish community in the early to mid 70s.I don't think any of the non-turkish australians knew about these artists except for maybe baris manco who was on television & in the newspapers and was even mobbed by schoolgirls who had seen him on tv on that music program GTK which was very popular at the time.I think mogollar's 1st record recorded in france was a world music hit all around the world for collectors of ethnic music,even though the record was a folk-psych album.I don't know why it took so long for the rest of the world to recognise turkish rock(not including folk/belly dance records).Maybe it was the language barrier or most likely people didn't know that there was such a thing as anadolu/turkish rock ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-3129301981210075922010-05-13T03:48:57.859+02:002010-05-13T03:48:57.859+02:00'they could've heard the record ? manco re...'they could've heard the record ? manco recorded flower of love in 1968 and the masters recorded their song in the early 70s.'<br />ok. but how much turk rock made its way to australia? as far as I know, none made it to the US until decades later. I wonder why baris or erkin never played in the US; particularly when u consider that erkin lived in canada for a few years. even feridun hurel played in london occasionally when he lived there in the early '80s. aydin cakus, who played with erkin for a short while (and former bunalim) moved to US in '70s to become a housepainter. for many years he has had very bad hard rock bands. I wonder what nihat orarel (drummer & songwriter for erkin koray super grup)has done since moving to new zealand in '75? (he is currently building a website). I met him once and he told some horrible/hilarious <br />stories (that for various reasons I shouldn't repeat).<br /><br />so the tartars gave us charles bronson and... (see below)<br /><br />http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1593/what-do-steak-tartare-tartar-sauce-and-dental-tartar-have-in-commonxanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-38865633036280514682010-05-13T03:13:30.400+02:002010-05-13T03:13:30.400+02:00they could've heard the record ? manco recor...they could've heard the record ? manco recorded flower of love in 1968 and the masters recorded their song in the early 70s.read about the tartars below there's a picture of charles bronson on the side but no mention if he's jewish or not?<br /><br /> <br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TatarsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-57614000707030512622010-05-13T02:47:02.143+02:002010-05-13T02:47:02.143+02:00"it's because i love you" by an earl..."it's because i love you" by an early 70s line-up of the masters.If you take away the chorus, it's fairly similar to manco's flower of love.'<br /><br />any chance they heard Baris' song?<br /><br />'I've heard about that turkic tribe from central asia converting from shamanism to judaism... I think many of these people are of the tartar branch of the turkic peoples? I've read somewhere that charles bronson is a jewish tartar?'<br /><br />I have no answer for either question<br /><br />There is a cool bio called THE ORIENTALIST about an azeri jewish novelist of 100 yrs ago who passed as a moslem. lots of info about strange groups of jews from the region with no true relation to jews or to turks. <br />a few years ago, I asked a kurdish friend about kurdish jews (almost all moved to israel in late '40s; but some have recently started to move back). she was dumbfounded-- had never heard of such a thing. there are a couple of books on the topic but they are small and super expensive as most academic books are.xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-29235746394762798342010-05-13T02:34:13.717+02:002010-05-13T02:34:13.717+02:00the song is "it's because i love you"...the song is "it's because i love you" by an early 70s line-up of the masters.If you take away the chorus, it's fairly similar to manco's flower of love.This song is a rock anthem here and is used in tv commercials and is played on the radio everyday.I prefer the mick bower line-up of the masters too.<br />No, I didn't get the O.khorshid dbl lp yet but will get it soon along with the cd when it comes out.<br />I've heard about that turkic tribe from central asia converting from shamanism to judaism years before most turks converted to the moslem religion.I think many of these people are of the tartar branch of the turkic peoples? I've read somewhere that charles bronson is a jewish tartar ? There are a small number of turkic people that are christian,buddhist,shamanist etc.too but like i said 98% are moslem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-68986424688616513832010-05-13T01:30:53.899+02:002010-05-13T01:30:53.899+02:00'uygur guitar hero...I give him the thumbs up....'uygur guitar hero...I give him the thumbs up.He must've been listening to koray or it's probably the turkic scales that sound similar when played on a western instrument such as the electric guitar.'<br />yes; traditional uighur folk music.<br />A turkish friend who's lived in China for 10 years has told me about going to uighur cafes in Beijing that have groups playing electrified folk music that sounds like garage rock/anadolu rock but these klips were the 1st I had a chance to listen to. I once asked<br />some uighur girls living here if people back home were familiar with Erkin but they didn't know.<br /><br />'Also he sounds like omar khorshid a bit too !!!'<br />yes. are gonna get his new dbl lp<br />on sublime frequencies? it'll be out on cd later this year too.<br /><br />'So baris made that glemser/yardbird quote when he was already established, not in the late 60s before he hit it big with daglar daglar.He was probably misquoted then ?'<br /><br />I've no idea if he was misquoted; which had never occurred to me, but I don't think so.It's repeated in<br />dozens if not hundreds of turkish websites...<br />HEY printed pics of Baris and band at african lion safari.<br /><br />'Another band that has a turkish psych sounding song is the masters' apprentices from australia.there song just because i love you sounds a lot like manco's flower of love.'<br /><br />this doesn't ring a bell. I just looked for my WAR OR HANDS OF TIME collection but couldn't find it, which I've had for about 20 yrs. I loved the early Masters (until the guitar player left); after that they didn't do much for me. was it later?<br />I don't know if its on my CD.<br /><br />re: solomon&dylan's jewish turkish origins: have you read 13th tribe by Arthur Koestler? It posits that most jews in the world today are of turkic origins, dating back 1000 yrs<br />when a central asian kingdom converted to judaism. a friend here once showed me an article about a soviet anthropologist who went to study shtetls (jewish villages) in lithuania in the 1930s and found <br />that people spoke a turkic language.xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-86957393254526973192010-05-13T01:30:18.083+02:002010-05-13T01:30:18.083+02:00'uygur guitar hero...I give him the thumbs up....'uygur guitar hero...I give him the thumbs up.He must've been listening to koray or it's probably the turkic scales that sound similar when played on a western instrument such as the electric guitar.'<br />yes; traditional uighur folk music.<br />A turkish friend who's lived in China for 10 years has told me about going to uighur cafes in Beijing that have groups playing electrified folk music that sounds like garage rock/anadolu rock but these klips were the 1st I had a chance to listen to. I once asked<br />some uighur girls living here if people back home were familiar with Erkin but they didn't know.<br /><br />'Also he sounds like omar khorshid a bit too !!!'<br />yes. are gonna get his new dbl lp<br />on sublime frequencies? it'll be out on cd later this year too.<br /><br />'So baris made that glemser/yardbird quote when he was already established, not in the late 60s before he hit it big with daglar daglar.He was probably misquoted then ?'<br /><br />I've no idea if he was misquoted; which had never occurred to me, but I don't think so.It's repeated in<br />dozens if not hundreds of turkish websites...<br />HEY printed pics of Baris and band at african lion safari.<br /><br />'Another band that has a turkish psych sounding song is the masters' apprentices from australia.there song just because i love you sounds a lot like manco's flower of love.'<br /><br />this doesn't ring a bell. I just looked for my WAR OR HANDS OF TIME collection but couldn't find it, which I've had for about 20 yrs. I loved the early Masters (until the guitar player left); after that they didn't do much for me. was it later?<br />I don't know if its on my CD.<br /><br />re: solomon&dylan's jewish turkish origins: have you read 13th tribe by Arthur Koestler? It posits that most jews in the world today are of turkic origins, dating back 1000 yrs<br />when a central asian kingdom converted to judaism. a friend here once showed me an article about a soviet anthropologist who went to study shtetls (jewish villages) in lithuania in the 1930s and found <br />that people spoke a turkic language.xanthor fekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06676841788457138102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3172829701082236562.post-41319098266389704862010-05-12T08:01:17.700+02:002010-05-12T08:01:17.700+02:00I thought that soloman must've had a turkish j...I thought that soloman must've had a turkish jewish background too, like bob dylan.i'll try those 2 early kaleidoscope album's you mentioned if i see them for them here. I listened to that uygur guitar hero,the first clip so far,I give him the thumbs up.He must've been listening to koray or it's probably the turkic scales that sound similar when played on a western instrument such as the electric guitar.Also he sounds like omar khorshid a bit too !!!So baris made that glemser/yardbird quote when he was already established, not in the late 60s before he hit it big with daglar daglar.He was probably misquoted then ?.<br />Baris manco came out to australia in april 1974.he did a gig at the elizabethan theatre in Newtown Sydney and another gig in melbourne.Baris also appeared on a ten minute tv music show called GTK on the Abc government channel here.i think he was interviewed and maybe a clip was shown too? he also visited warragamba dam and the african lion safari(no longer exists) near sydney.I also read that he made a studio recording here that is still unreleased.also he & kurtulan ekspres were featured in a newspaper article in sydney.I don't have any of this stuff.This info is from a baris biography and various sites i've looked up in the past few years.<br />Another band that has a turkish psych sounding song is the masters' apprentices from australia.there song just because i love you sounds a lot like manco's flower of love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com