Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Even Byzantine women know the true meaning of luuuve when it comes to Cüneyt Arkin


110 comments:

  1. A cuneyt arkin double for the next MM release would be great.Perhaps this movie with adsiz cengaver (nameless knight) ???
    btw those are great screen shots from the movie !!

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  2. Ahh, that would be awesome. Although only a drop in the ocean. How many films has he done, 400 or something. I was flicking thru the "Fantastik Türk Sinemasi" book and the amount of stuff I have never seen is overwhelming!

    Yes, those screen shots are pretty good. I'm not familiar with the film you mention.

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  3. I think he C.Arkin has made about 350-400 movies,depending on what you read.I read somewhere that at the height of his career he was making a movie every two weeks!!!
    Yes, two movies would be the tip of the iceberg for arkin movies.
    I haven't seen the nameless warrior or knight (korkusuz cengaver) but i think it has some special fx that were created in england. It's like a battal gazi type of a movie mixed with an arabian nights type of fantasy adventure with some king arthur type elements thrown into the mix.Don't know if that's an accurate desription of the movie but I just found out it's on you tube.

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  4. Xanthor, I tried again a couple of days ago and got to view the last clip.the video where he comes off stage singing and playing his guitar.This sounded more pop than the guitar instro. ie uygur erol buyukburc or maybe cliff richard but it was still interesting.i'll try that other clip you put up.

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  5. Xanthor,use this thread instead the other one's too long.
    Btw have you heard about a turkish psychedelic comp coming out next month on cd and vinyl called Turkish Freakout.No details so far ,just a mention on a site that it's coming out late june ??

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  6. thanks xanthor just downloaded the clip from that last link you posted.Very enjoyable,very nice guitar playing too.Maybe the tune is called "pervane" it's mentioned quite a few times in the song !!!

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  7. LOL. Yeah, the other comments section has over 150 comments. A record or what!

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  8. It could've gone on for another thousand replies but i don't want to take over your blog.lol.
    btw I've got a danish 1960s beat/garage compilation called copenhagen beat.Here's a list of the trax on the LP :-

    1 1 The Bristols A Rolling Stone 1965
    1 2 The Blackpools I'm Wild About You 1965
    1 3 The Blackpools Endless Hoping 1965
    1 4 The Heaters Walking Down The Street 1965 unreleased
    1 5 The Heaters Just Can't Go To Sleep 1965 unreleased
    1 6 The Blackpools All-Right 1966
    1 7 The Blackpools I'll Go Crazy 1966
    1 8 The Swinging Five Little Zula 1965
    2 1 The King Beats Road Runner 1966
    2 2 The King Beats She's Fine, She's Mine 1966
    2 3 The Caravans Everything Is All Right 1965
    2 4 The Caravans Can I Get A Witness 1965
    2 5 The Silverbeats If You Tell Me 1965
    2 6 The Silverbeats Please Come Back 1965
    2 7 The Raws When I Walked 1966
    2 8 The Big Bossmen Get The Picture 1966

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  9. I've never even heard of those bands. O_O

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  10. What's the title of the LP?

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  11. Jack, the name of the lp is copenhagen beat.Link below for info :-

    http://60spunk.m78.com/copenhagenbeat.htm

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  12. Thanks. I see now you actually said it in the first post! I should probably get some sleep. LOL. I'll try your link.

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  13. XANTHOR, continue on this thread if you are reading the side message section ?????

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  14. If he's only subscribing to comments from that post he might not notice you've jumped to another post. You might wanna just write one more comment in that thread and tell him.

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  15. that's a good idea.I'm just going by the messages on the green sidebar.

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  16. 'have you heard about a turkish psychedelic comp coming out next month on cd and vinyl called Turkish Freakout?'
    never heard of it before.interesting to see if its just another retread or really does have some of the previously unreissued stuff...

    re: Cuneyt Arkin: when I visited here 20 years ago, though people liked his old films, he was scoffed at cause he had this tv talk show and his politics were nationalistic.

    'I've got a danish '60s beat/garage compilation called copenhagen beat'
    I use to have this same comp. I liked it though I didn't feel it was as strong as what I'd heard from other scandinavian countries at the time. but some really nice danish bands in the '70s: burnin' red ivanhoe, midnight sun,savage rose (who even played Istanbul a few times), secret oyster, but I could go on and on...

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  17. I thought I'd post the following seperately of possible links, which seem to exist but I couldn't actually get all of them to play. maybe you'll have more luck.

    http://www.nartube.com/5a74a071d40f443b7a14a7540f2578ea34d3e6e2:Z-TOkjdutCY.html
    (Oya says this is just like an Erkut Tackin song)

    > http://www.genckolik.org/uyghur-famous-guitarist-2/q-NmFJWFpKbUlzOFU=

    > http://www.genckolik.org/uyghur-famous-guitarist/q-Wi1UT2tqZHV0Q1k=

    > http://www.genckolik.org/marhum-ahmatjan-3/q-VGJVcDF3NlRkalk=

    > http://www.genckolik.org/marhum-ahmatjan-4/q-X3lWZXM1MEUxS00=

    > http://www.genckolik.org/marhum-ahmatjan-1/q-WUxYRThHSDNFUTQ=
    ------------------------------------
    my favorite turk folk song FIDAYDA:

    > > > CETIN AKDENIZ
    > http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=NzZJOFNvcWuRpeVdmaEE

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  18. XANTHOR, that song does sound like an erkut tackin song 'doga ve insan' (nature & man).Also the melody slightly resembles a theme to a japanese cartoon,can't remember which one.I'm having problems with the clips.Some say you cannot acess this link and others don't play but remain on standby forever !!
    I'll try again later.

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  19. Cuneyt arkin was also big in Iran in the 1970s,where he was more well known by his real name 'Fahrettin'.

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  20. ''m having problems with the clips.Some say you cannot acess this link and others don't play but remain on standby forever !!'
    I get the remain on standby forever, but not the cannot access. sometimes the internet is so bewilderingly capricious.one clip I got to work once and then just standby.just a few months ago, these clips were unknown to internet-- I searched to no avail. I hope my friend goes to Urumci in Oct to find this stuff...

    'Cuneyt arkin was also big in Iran in the 1970s,where he was more well known by his real name 'Fahrettin'.

    I've seen a lot of lobby cards for his films that I thought were in arabic but maybe most (all?) were actually in farsi.
    do u know of Cihangir Gefari, an Iranian actor who starred in many turkish B films of '70s.

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  21. yep,I've heard about cihangir gefari.he did quite a few turkish flicks in the late 60s & early 70s.Maybe this was a ploy to sell the films more easily to a persian market.You didn't have to know turkish to be in a yesilcam movie,I think nearly all of those were filmed silent and then voice actors would dub the dialogue in later.There many other foreign actors in turkish movies for instance Annie Ball from Austria and Virginia Bruce from hollywood and many other films with Italian actors.Then three's the guy who played the genie in Adsiz Cengaver I think he was British.Also Bolo in ninja killer etc etc.

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  22. Xanthor,When do expect that erkin koray album you mentioned earlier to come out on subliminal frequencies.What period in his career will the album cover,1967-1983 ????

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  23. 'When do expect that erkin koray album to come out on SF.What period will the album cover,1967-1983 ????'

    I just sent yr query along to my friend (who is putting the comp together).

    'You didn't have to know turkish to be in a yesilcam movie,I think nearly all of those were filmed silent and then voice actors would dub the dialogue in later.'

    it was a very small group of voice actors who dubbed in almost all of the voices in turkish films for yrs. about 15 yrs ago, a fanzine here interviewed these guys.

    'Virginia Bruce from hollywood and many other films with Italian actors.'

    I didn't know about Bruce or some of the others, though I did know about the italians. annie ball also starred in a number of greek films.

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  24. Virginia Bruce lived in istanbul for a while in the 1950s with her then husband ali ipar who produced the first colour film in turkey in 1953 called Salgin aka epidemic istanbul,starring virginia.According to what I've read this film was shown on tv but is now lost.Do you have the poster for this movie in that 5555 book ??Ipar also directed the first turkish colour documentary and in the US wrote the screenplay for a POW WW2 flick I can't recall the name of.Also eva bender from sweden who was also married to a turkish film producer or director.Did i mention Bolo leung in ninja killer ? there's more but i can't recall them all now ?
    Oh,another is Christine Haydar,have you heard of her ??

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  25. 'Salgin aka epidemic istanbul, starring virginia.'
    according to IMDB it got a US release in '56 under title ISTANBUL.

    'Do you have the poster for this movie in that 5555 book ??'
    yes. but it is very small.

    'Ipar also wrote the screenplay for Curse of a Teenage Nazi...'
    which is available on american DVD

    'eva bender from sweden was also married to a turkish film producer or director.'
    it seems she only made films in turkey...

    Did i mention Bolo leung in ninja killer ?'
    is this any good?

    'Oh,another is Christine Haydar,have you heard of her ??'
    no.
    there is also a turk actress who made a few US films but died young (don't remember her name).

    US director Jon Keeyes made 2 BAD films in 2007 with substantial turkish casts: Living & Dying;
    Fall Down Dead.

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  26. If this works:

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000212947112#!/photo.php?pid=362676&id=100000212947112

    its a link to a pic of the Salgin poster w/ virginia bruce

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  27. Christine or Kristin Haydar made a couple of turkish films and recorded an album,I think with songs sung in french,italian and turkish.one of the films she made was with cuneyt arkin.Thanks for the salgin poster image off your facebook profile.

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  28. The ninja killer is not the best karate or kung fu movie but it's still worth having.It usually gets a low rating on imdb and other review sites but they also gave the Green Slime 3 out of 5,which in my opinion rates at least an 8/10.As for ninja killer or karate fighters in istanbul I'd give a 6.5 out of ten.There's a hilarious scene where arkin splits his pants while performing a high flying kung fu kick.You'd think they'd do another take but they left the blooper in the actual released movie.lol.
    ps I got the ninja killer dvd for $3usd .

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  29. NINJA KILLER is also aka "Kung Fu On The Bosporus" and the title of the Turkish edit is "Karateciler Istandbul'da". I can't even remember if Bolo is in the Turkish edit as a lot of the Chinese stuff isn't in it. The Turkish version and the international version are almost two different movies. As I've mentioned somewhere here before I have the international version in its English dub and the Turkish version dubbed into German. Both are fun versions but you're right it's not the best kung fu film ever. But then again, most cheap genre films from Turkey aren't the "best" by anybody's standards BUT they ARE a lot of fun to watch! xD!!

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  30. Btw, I also have another Turkish kung fu/revenge movie called KARATE GIRL (aka GOLDEN GIRL aka KARATECI KIZ) that stars Filiz Akin. I have both the English dubbed version and the Turkish tape (well, Greek really but it's in Turkish). Cover scans for both films here:
    http://z9.invisionfree.com/THE_CINEHOUND_FORUM/index.php?showtopic=1470

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  31. In reg. to foreign actors in Turkish films: I have two films that were co-produced with Italy and which stars Klaus Kinski (I forget the titles). Erol Tas was in at least one of them.

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  32. 'Thanks for the salgin poster image off your facebook profile.'
    no problem. I also tried to put a photo of the 3hurel lobbycard but it didn't work. I might have the image on a CDr of stuff scanned for Babylon article. I'll check.

    I've seen parts of these kung fu films but my VHSs got lost in a move.I've still never seen GREEN SLIME, damn...

    'But then again, most cheap genre films from Turkey aren't the "best" by anybody's standards BUT they ARE a lot of fun to watch!'

    definitely! wait til you see the other turkish tarzan film-- tarzan the fearless. I LOVE it.
    tarzan istanbul'da never did much for me.
    I've never seen Karate Girl.

    'I have two films that were co-produced with Italy and which stars Klaus Kinski'
    I havent seen these either. I think the turkish clark gable, ihan isik, was in these...

    I've never seen any of these turkish or part-turkish films that were dubbed in english...

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  33. 3HUREL:

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?pid=362889&id=100000212947112

    AND YOU THOUGHT the runaways WERE THE 1ST ALL-GIRL ROCK BAND. WELL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS KICKASS BAND FROM ABOUT '72:

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?pid=362891&id=100000212947112

    and for all u fluent turkish readers, mavi isiklar writes about psychedelic music in SES ('69?):

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?pid=362893&id=100000212947112

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  34. SELDA video klips (some live):

    http://www.videolife.tk/categories/Selda-BAGCAN/210/page1.html#?oauth_error_reason=not_authed

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  35. JACK J,yes i agree most of the cult/genre turkish films aren't all that well made films because of limited budgets,poor resources and quick shooting schedules.Having said that they are fun to watch and often are partially well made with many flaws and when you grow use to watching them you can't stop.In my opinion the better quality films are from mainly the b/w era of the 1950s and 1960s,films by directors such as omer lutfi akad,atif yilmaz,metin erksan,osman f sedan and others.
    I don't have any of those films you mentioned at all ie karate girl and those klaus kinksi or the supermen and the wild girl one

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  36. Xanthor,I couldn't get those links you put up for your facebook page.The other one came up because you had it as your profile picture.About the selda clips i prefer her less political turkish folk pop stuff from the early 70s,i don't dig politics that much,I also like her first two solo lps but from a psychedelic point of view not from any political angle.Have you seen the yalan dunya clip on trt,the song she did with mogollar.

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  37. xanthor,i like a lot of the ayhan isik films.He's like the turkish clark gable but he also plays a lot of tough guy roles.

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  38. 'most of the cult/genre turkish films aren't all that well made films because of limited budgets,poor resources and quick shooting schedules.'

    Fikret Ucak described the making of 3dev adam-- he didnt even have the use of a normal cinema camera-- he had to use a newsreel camera.

    'the better quality films are from mainly the b/w era of the 1950s and 1960s,films by directors such as omer lutfi akad,atif yilmaz,metin erksan,osman f sedan and others.'

    but no english subs...

    notice my new profile pic...

    I prefer selda's psych too.

    'Have you seen the yalan dunya clip on trt,the song she did with mogollar.'

    no

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  39. Xanthor, thanks for the 3 hurel lobby card picture off your facebook profile.It seems western turkish cult film fans discovered the worst of turkish(ie seytan,DKA,Turkish rambo,badi,turkish wizard of oz,Turkish superman et al) cinema first rather than the other way around.I agree better vintage films should be restored with eng subs for the foreign film collectors market.The selda mogollar trt clip is of her walking around the streets of ankara singing the said tune.

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  40. Anonymous: now check out my profile pic for the Killer Girl Band.

    'It seems western turkish cult film fans discovered the worst of turkish cinema 1st...I agree better vintage films should be restored with eng subs for the foreign film collectors market.'

    the only one I know of is Erksan's
    Sevmek Zamani. I watched a L.Akkad documentary yrs ago and have wanted to see his films ever since.

    I'll have to look for the selda mogollar trt clip.

    are u gonna get that crazy film on dvd written by v. bruce's husband?

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  41. xanthor,great turkish girl group photo,are they called kizlar as written on their drum kit and did they record anything??
    I've got the vcd for sevmek zamani as well as the dvd,haven't paid for the dvd yet but the guy on ebay is holding it for me until my next order.Virginia bruce i'm going to buy some of her movies such as the invisible woman and i look into that ali ipar written flick too.Also there's a biography on her which i might purchase too!!

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  42. check links below for v.bruce biography. Ipar is pictured at the bottom of the book cover.link below:-

    http://www.virginiabrucebiography.com/

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  43. 'great turkish girl group photo,are they called kizlar as written on their drum kit and did they record anything??'

    I think kizlar orkestrasi is the name and as far as I know they never recorded (they kinda look like the turkish shaggs (great '60s new england band))...lots of bands never recorded or never got released: Oxygen was written about frequently in HEY, but no records.
    TANK (a supergroup with members from mogollar&kaygizizlar) recorded one single that was rejected by the record company-- they dumped the demo on the street when they left!

    sevmek zamani is excellent art film.

    'Virginia bruce i'm going to buy some of her movies and i look into that ali ipar written flick too.'

    cool. let me know how they are.

    'a biography on her which i might purchase too!!'
    I looked at the link-- sounds interesting. let me know about this too. my next bio (not that I read many) will be the one on barbara payton.

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  44. yes I've heard of the shaggs and a couple of their songs were even played on the radio here on a radio show.I've heard of oksicinler.I'm pretty sure they backed up alpay on one of his records.I don't know why there hasn't been an alpay compilation yet?

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  45. 'I've heard of oksicinler.I'm pretty sure they backed up alpay on one of his records.'

    I didn't know this.

    'I don't know why there hasn't been an alpay compilation yet?'
    the shop I've mentioned before had a 3cd collection of Alpay singles. there was enough material for maybe an ok single volume. the vast majority of his releases are not really what we're into; but having said that he did have some choice anadolu rock.

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  46. XANTHOR,I think it's the same oxygen group?? I'll get back to you later when I find the info,not sure if they are credited on the alpay 45 but I think they're some sort of studio super group like the band you mentioned,Tank.They're either called oksijinler,or oksijin orkestrasi or something similar.I know alpay has got a lot of crooner ballads but an alpay rock lp would be great.For example both sides of the single he did with 3 hurel,yekte,daglar engel oldu,ben armudu disledim,seni dileniyorum,kalenin bayir duzu,can karagozlum etc

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  47. JACK J, thanks for the karate girl & ninja killer danish vhs scans.I just got back from the super market and got some danish chicken salami for lunch.Yummy !!!!! lol.

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  48. info about oksijin would be appreciated. nobody ever talked about them.

    'an alpay rock lp would be great...the single he did with 3 hurel, etc'

    I agree. he's still around. we watched him on DISKO KRAL a couple of weeks ago.

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  49. 'JACK J, thanks for the karate girl & ninja killer danish vhs scans'

    where can i see the scans?

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  50. Hey Jay,

    He's referring to my link in my latest comment before this one. Here it is again:

    http://z9.invisionfree.com/THE_CINEHOUND_FORUM/index.php?showtopic=1470

    (copy it and put it in the address bar). It's from a Cinehound post.

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  51. Jack J,
    thanks! the scans are cool!

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  52. Tombei,
    You went for Danish chicken salami for lunch!! LOL. Today was a public holiday here and some English guy in a car asked me for direction to a chemist's that would be open; When I told him he said "Where abouts are you from, are you Australian?" Haha.

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  53. Jay,
    Yes, they are and they're fun movies too. Do watch 'em if you get a chance. :D

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  54. JACK J,Yep Danish chicken salami sandwhiches,also had some Danish pecan pie with walnuts and custard.They're on special this week at woolies.Tonight I might watch "journey to the seventh planet" tonight with john agar greta thyssen, which i have on video vhs and on dvd !! LOL.

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  55. Anonymous: 'I might watch "journey to the seventh planet" tonight with john agar greta thyssen.'

    a great choice-- a film I saw in a movie theatre when I was a little kid and had such great memories that I bought the DVD.

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  56. Jack,you haven't lost your aussie accent.What's with the picture of the guy with the paper bag mask? He looks like the unknown comic from the gong show ??

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  57. yes Jay,journey to seventh planet is a great vintage sci-fi flick.It's a danish & usa co- production.Check out link below,click on posters/lobby cards for larger images :-

    http://www.wrongsideoftheart.com/?s=journey+to+the+seventh+planet&submit.x=7&submit.y=11

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  58. Anonymous: those are great lobby cards.

    on youtube I'm listening to:

    Alpay ve Oksijenler - Ah Berelim (1973)

    Its a shame there are no Oksijenler singles on their own.

    Alpay ve 3 Hurel - Gönüllerde Bahar (1972)

    Alpay- Daglar Engel Oldu (1974)

    I wish I knew who the musicians on this are.

    Alpay - Ben Armudu Dislerim (1974)(w/ zafer dilek)

    Alpay - Akça Kizlar (1971)

    Alpay - Yapraklar Dökülmeden Gel (1970)

    Alpay - Suna (1971)

    Alpay ve Arkadaslari - Kara Tren (1965)

    Alpay - Yekte (1973)

    Alpay-kirpiklerin ok ok eyle

    Alpay- Seni Dileniyorum (1973)

    Alpay - Gitme (not anadolu/rock)

    Alpay -Can Karagözlüm (1973)

    Alpay - Mecnun Derlerdi (1975)

    Alpay - Yapraklar Dökülmeden Gel (1970)

    Alpay - Dağların Gözyaşları (tv show)

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  59. Anonymous:
    have you heard of ZORBEYLER, with a guy playing dbl-necked saz?

    there are 3 videos, one dating to '84 but one recent.

    saz players website:

    http://cudikoyuncu.com/

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  60. more Uighur Rock videos:

    Are EKHMETJAN & MARHUM AHMATJAN
    the same person?

    (a brit ethnomusicologist is gonna try to determine, what do you think)
    I was able to watch these for about an hr before I got the 'video not available' so you might give it a try.

    http://www.nartube.com/5a74a071d40f443b7a14a7540f2578ea34d3e6e2:Z-TOkjdutCY.html

    marhum ahmatjan 2
    http://www.nartube.com/0c1c977aa5a41e4f5cce03f47c2a25c8cabbd9f2:e2RH_UZ_0fs.html

    marhum ahmatjan 5
    http://www.nartube.com/54d898cf90425957660bc523aa67e82fd5e8666d:-_2jKBB4Y7Q.html

    marhum ahmatjan 6
    http://www.nartube.com
    /ffb0e0363c1568b17c6e5e8b564574cc5a93e450:gOoBqsDKyns.html

    marhum ahmatjan 1
    http://www.nartube.com/f8dc4d69b6647f45b439f0d3c130334e48c730ce:YLXE8GH3EQ4.html

    marhum ahmatjan 4
    http://www.nartube.com/621405fd09103d223df5351c13a0a63ab2549fab:_yVes50E1KM.html

    marhum ahmatjan 3
    http://www.nartube.com/2c8d7697c38074aa4be4e0d8425301ee96092a78:TbUp1w6TdjY.html

    marhum ahmatjan 7
    http://www.nartube.com/65f10c46151a554c02e6e4403ac613f9659fed94:qDC_rpNKRHg.html

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  61. Öztürk Serengil- Abidik Gubidik Twist
    http://youtubeunblock.com/index.php/1010110A/c90ef4d6c750ceae95a4f2f0a52186d7504d152a3aabbdbf39aff9ca7754b5cca301656036fcb4b03ccd12e195c657fc54fd89daa3b4520416728

    &

    http://youtubeunblock.com/index.php/1010110A/c90ef4d6c750ceae95a4f2f0a52186d7504d152a3aabbdbf39aff9ca7708abc8a7020b7450b986c13ccd12e195c657fc54fd89daa3b4520416728

    Abidik Gubidik Twist - Adnan Varveren

    http://youtubeunblock.com/index.php/1010110A/c90ef4d6c750ceae95a4f2f0a52186d7504d152a3aabbdbf39aff9ca7701aec8c556404a34e080fb16728

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  62. jay,you found the oxygen single with alpay.looks as though you've just about listed the songs for an alpay best of collection.i just watched the ozturk abidik twist video, this is an earlier version.there's a better more wilder version at the start of a turkan soray movie that he's in.In this clip he has a band backing him up.Again I couldn't watch those ekmetjan clips on nartube !!!

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  63. 'you've just about listed the songs for an alpay best of collection.'
    that's what I was thinking...

    'there's a better more wilder version at the start of a turkan soray movie that he's in.In this clip he has a band backing him up.'
    I'll try to find it.

    'I couldn't watch those ekmetjan clips on nartube !!!'
    keep trying; they're worth it...

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  64. jay,i would've included ask boyledir with the 3Hurel as well.On yekte it's the yonca orkestrasi led by zafer dilek.This backing track is on the TRT ara muzik 2 as well as on a B-music(finders keepers comp) credited to zafer dilek.i'll watch those other clips you mentioned later.

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  65. 'i would've included ask boyledir with the 3Hurel as well.'
    couldn't find it on youtube but I'm sure it deserves to be on it.

    'This backing track is on the TRT ara muzik 2'
    I have this album

    'as well as on a B-music(finders keepers comp) credited to zafer dilek.'
    well, I won't be purchasing any finders keepers.

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  66. I read somewhere on the internet that the people from finders keepers were regularly in istanbul trying to buy out or get their hands on every single turkish,psych,beat,pop,etc records so that they can have a monopoly on all turkish reissues.Is this true ?? There turkish reissue output has diminished sinced that ersen best of from early 2008,maybe it has to do with the royalties controversy with the selda lp ??

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  67. 'I read somewhere on the internet that finders keepers were regularly in istanbul trying to get their hands on every turkish, psych,beat, pop,etc record so that they can have a monopoly on all turkish reissues.Is this true ??'

    I haven't heard this and don't know if its true but I wouldn't put it past those slimeballs...
    the thing is that most of the shops that were selling this stuff are gone & the few remaining shops seem to know the true value of the records.

    'There turkish reissue output has diminished.. maybe it has to do with the royalties controversy with the selda lp ??'
    what controversy? everyone seems to believe andy votel's lies and bullshit and that of his colleagues;
    people don't realize they stole the Selda songs.

    as for Ersen,I interviewed him 4 yrs ago and asked if he wanted to have a collection released on a small label in the US. He was delighted and didn't care that the money would be small (he did very well in real estate in the '80s). then when my friend was talking to him about what songs to put on the CD, he said he wanted $20,000. I have no idea if finders keepers paid him. my friend hopes they didn't.

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  68. I get ya,everyone believes the knobs from finders keepers then,typical.Ersen also had that 'unofficial' cd reissue of his first lp dunden bugune on underground masters.Shadoks was also planning to do a double lp on ersen and then another on baris manco.I guess both those deals fell through.haha ??

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  69. JAY,yes,I finally got to watch about five of those clips.I think his name is Ahmet Can Marhum in turkish.The guitar playing is exceptional, I understood parts of what he was singing in a couple of the songs others were hard to make out but he's definitely singing in a turkic dialect.

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  70. 'Shadoks was also planning to do a double lp on ersen and then another on baris manco.I guess both those deals fell through.haha ??'
    the only difference between shodaks + FK is that the former started stealing much earlier.

    'I finally got to watch about five of those clips...The guitar playing is exceptional'
    Glad you got to 'em. I'm in touch with an ethnomusicologistspecialist in uighur music. she didn't know who I was talking about so I emailed her the links yesterday for her to watch.

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  71. Another two albums that were announced but never released were :-
    Turkish delights volume 2 (subtitled) The swinging side of the bosphorus

    Anatolian Invasion finders keepers(not them again) turkish psych comp

    also guerssen records were going to release the first cem karaca (with a 2 page leaflet) lp but turkuola from germany released it first.
    I'm trying to collect all turkish psych reissues,no matter if they're good or bad.

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  72. '2 albums announced but never released were:Turkish Delights vol2;
    Anatolian Invasion finders keepers turkish psych comp.'
    never heard of either; any idea what was to be on them?

    'also guerssen records were going to release the first cem karaca (with a 2 page leaflet) lp but turkuola from germany released it first.'
    is turkola real or bootleg label? I have a CDr of one release that sucked-- looked like bootleg to me.

    just read on facebook that douchbag harlage hasn't released the 1st MF(without the O) cause MF have sat on his contract for 3 years. good for them.

    'I'm trying to collect all turkish psych reissues,no matter if they're good or bad.'
    do you have a list? I wonder if you have stuff I've never heard about. I found out about BM-Live in Tarsus when a friend visited and complained that he'd lent the tape to a friend and next thing he knew, the guy had bootlegged it. I know a number of things are out there cause well-meaning people lent tapes to people that they thought were trustworthy... If you heard what GA had suggested to me be HavaN v2 (I've got the CDr), you'd gag...

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  73. anatolian invasion I think wasn't released (i'm guessing) because the stuff is already out on their labels and on other releases.I suspect(guessing again) they've already released it as mix compilation with unlisted hidden tracks called oyun havasi vol 1 and other trax on those b-music cds,limited eps and on other related releases.The comp(oyun havasi)is being presented as a persian psych (which it's not) or a mid-east beats one but really it's the turkish trax along with the one omar khorshid instro that make up the bulk of the good stuff on this cd.The rest of the stuff is regular world music trax which have nothing to do with psych or rock.

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  74. I'll get back to you with the list of trax on those comps.

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  75. 'anatolian invasion; oyun havasiis being presented as persian psych, which it's not.'
    this info is pretty depressing. the omar khorshid track is undoubetdly booted cause sublime frequncies has legal permission for his stuff.
    looking forward to your list.

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  76. "What's with the picture of the guy with the paper bag mask? He looks like the unknown comic from the gong show ??"

    Well, the paper bag mask guy is... ME. Hahaha. When I opened this blog a few yrs back I wanted to use a photo of myself but at the same time I was wary of having my mug plastered all over the web. So I went for the "slasher film approach": Wear a paper bag over your head! LMAO.

    I'm using the same photo on message boards and at some stage (quite a while back) there was this messed up guy who got offended over something I said and he kept going: "take that bag off, I'm not talking to someone in a paper bag!" - and I'm thinking: "Dude, it's a fucken PHOTO of me in a paper bag, it's not like I'm actually wearing it!!!" Hahaha. Sometimes you "run" into some weirdos in Cyberspace that's for sure.

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  77. jack that's a funny story.I wouldn't want to put a picture of myself on the internet either.I want to start a blog but can't figure out how.I'll have to get my 12 year old daughter to help me out she'll probably knows how to set a blog up.Also i can't use the tombei monicker someone's already got it.just in case you're wandering(LOL) tombei is a ninja character in a japanese tv series from the 1960s called the samurai which was only big in japan,australia and the phillipines

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  78. Jay,that comp with the khorshid track is from about two years ago.I just found out about it this year and ordered it from my local record store.There are 4 tracks on it with about 6 or 7 tunes joined together to make up a single track.No credits,no info,you have to figure out the songs for yourself.A Funny way of releasing a compilation??

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  79. 'comp with the khorshid track (has) 4 tracks on it with about 6 or 7 tunes joined together to make up a single track.No credits,no info,you have to figure out the songs for yourself.A Funny way of releasing a compilation??'

    only if they've booted all the songs.

    if this is the oyun havasi, I just listened to samples and its ok, but nothing special. I was making better mixtapes 30 years ago.

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  80. the songs i figured out on Oyun havasi are :-

    alpay- daglar engel oldu
    kamuran akkor- yaylalar
    kamuran akkor- ikimiz bir fidaniz
    agri dag efsanesi-deli gonul
    arif sag-oyun havasi
    ozdemir erdogan-varmisin
    baris manco-daglar daglar version 2
    ersen-gunese don cicegim
    sakir oner-deli deli
    alpay- yekte
    gulden karabocek song ?
    also i think there's an erkin koray track too and maybe a couple of others.It's a difficult cd to listen to but the songs are full versions and not samples.It's a b-music(finders keepers) cd than your probably right no licensing involved.

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  81. other comps related to finders keepers with turkish songs on them are :-

    prog is not a dirty word-with 2 turkish tunes which are lambaya puf de-baris manco & a 3 hurel song off their 2nd lp.

    Bearded ladies-various artists with 1 selda track gesi baglar

    cherrystone rocks compilation with mogollar's sunset in the golden horn lp version

    b-music compilation vol 1-this includes yekte by yonca orkestrasi/zafer dilek which is the backing track for alpay's version sans vocals.

    b-music comp volume 2-two turkish songs sevil ve ayla(backed by kurtulan ekspres &manco)-bebek and ozdemir erdogan- karaoglan almanyada

    there's a 7 inch vinyl ep compilation with 1 selda track,nem kaldi

    there's another ep comp with one ersen/mogollar song 'ternek'.

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  82. Xanthor,do you have a list of what was proposed for h.narghile vol 2 ?
    below the list for turkish delights vol 2, it's from memory, lost the list when my computer crashed, it's about half of the songs that were going to be on that album :-
    1 korkut koray-arabaci
    2.alpay-either ah berelim or daglar engel oldu
    3.arif sag-osman pehlivan
    4.arif sag-su samsunun evleri(?)
    5.husnu ozkartal orkestrasi-su derenin sulari
    6.kardaslar-deniz ustu kopurur
    7.kontlar-arpa bugday taneler
    8.Ankara fen lisesi-drama koprusu
    9.st joseph lisesi- 1 song
    10.kadikoy ticaret lisesi-lsd
    11.alman lisesi-unknown song
    12.lsd orkestrasi- unknown track
    13.durul gence 5-swinging side of the bosphorus
    that's it can't remeber the rest.

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  83. ..... just remembered a few more off that comp that never was TD2:the swinging side of the bosphorus :-
    14.rana alagoz-unknown track
    15.zumrut-siz erkekler(unchain my heart)
    16.selcuk alagoz-bahceye indim ki

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  84. 'do you have a list of what was proposed for h.narghile vol 2 ?'
    sorry this took so long. I listened to it for the 1st time in 9 years; track listing is long gone & I finally got girlfriend to help last nite ('94-'03 I listened to anadolu rock A LOT but have cut down: 9 yrs
    ago I could've just listened and known the titles. HN2tracks:
    siluetler-kasik havasi
    mogollar-garip gunlum
    mavi isiklar-ain't that so
    bunalim-
    tarsus amerikan kolej-I don't care
    cem karaca-kara uzum
    kadikoy ticaret lisesi-lsd
    kardaslar-cokertme
    Baris manco-olum allehin emri
    Erkin Koray-mechul 1&2
    edip akbayram-daglar dagladi beni
    erkut tackin-gitmek bana dustu
    that's half of the total of 22 songs.GF had some more songtitles but I can't read her writing. she said almost everything was a turku. most of what I didn't identify were vaguely mogolarish or kardaslar. he might have used the flip of the melih faruk serdae saygun 45. also maybe harmonilar or kaygizizlar. I put together 8 comps and for each spent 100s of hrs selecting songs and deciding how to present them in the best order. GA just seems to pick songs and throw them on a comp haphazardly; in listening to his HN2 comp this time I found this to be true again.I thought HN made a strong statement and that #2 was weaker all around; I only would've used about 4 of the songs (I've long since lost what I was planning for vol2). I would've used: LSD, Baris Manco,bunalim; maybe: mechul,erkut,mavi I. the songs he picked were good; I was looking for excellent...
    I spoke to Jonathan Richman the other nite and we talked music for 45 minutes. I got him so psyched that he was gonna run out the next day and buy the dbl Omar Khorshid album on sublime f.

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  85. Thanks for the list xanthor,i've put together a comp as well on cassette but not sure if you would dig the songs on it.I'm not only into the garage psych stuff from there I also like the jazz,funk,moog pop stuff from the 70s as well.I was going to make a cassette comp of the early beat/garage stuff and call it something along the lines of "Ferry Across the Golden Horn:This Sound is Where It's At".HAHAHA.Obviously a pun on the gerry & pacemakers song, a bit corny don't you think ?

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  86. 'I've put together a comp as well on cassette but I'm not only into the garage psych stuff from there I also like the jazz,funk,moog pop.'

    I'd be interested: I've got a couple caz singles and a whole CDr of turk moog '70s pop, plus some singles.

    'I was going to make a comp of early beat/garage stuff and call it "Ferry Across the Golden Horn:This Sound is Where It's At"...a bit corny don't you think ?

    sounds fine to me.

    did you know that the title for Marthy's beat comp came from me-- I don't think even he knows.

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  87. I also made another cassette compilation called technicolour tulips :the golden age of anadolu pop.Here's the list :-

    1 mogollar- sunset in the golden horn 45 version
    2 erkin koray-kiskanirim
    3 baris manco-gesi baglar
    4 mavi isiklar-benim dunyam sensin
    5 cem karaca-nem kaldi
    6 hulya-dort mevsimin birinde
    7 esin afsar-sandigimi acamadim
    8 edip akbayram-deniz ustu kopurur
    9 mogollar-tanrilarin arabalari
    10 kamuran akkor-falci
    11 fikret kizilok-haberin var mi?
    12 alpay-daglar engel oldu
    13 metin alatli-haydar haydar
    14 ersen- uc kiz bir ana
    15 bunalim/azziz azmet-yollar
    16 baris manco- bolu daglar
    17 erol buyukburc- cemo
    18 selda/mogollar- yalan dunya
    19 kardaslar- cokertme
    20 murat ses agri dag efsanesi- deli gonul
    21 erkin koray-mesafeler
    22 alpay/3 hurel- ask boyledir
    23 arif sag-su samsunun evleri
    24 fikret kizilok ay batti (instrumental)

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  88. 'technicolour tulips :the golden age of anadolu pop.'
    nice title, nice comp. I know all but one song: esin afsar.
    If I had done HN2, I was going to use fikret hakan's version of 'Cokertme'
    rather than Kardaslar's...
    tomorrow's the day that new turk comp is released and we find out what's on it. I googled the record label and found no info about the label.

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  89. Xanthor,the esin afsar song, sandigimi acamadim is produced and composed by baris manco with musical backing by kurtulan ekspres.This same haunting song was also recorded by another female singer called cigdem and again it was poduced by manco.The backing track for the esin afsar version can be found on the disco manco cassette album and cd.

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  90. the version by fikret hakan is really cool too.I've downloaded it off a site.I wish I had a clear version of it on a cd.If you mean the Turkish freakout compilation then the list of trax and cover art are as follows :-

    turkish freakout
    1. Okay Temiz - 'Dokuz Sekiz'
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    2. Kardaslar - 'Cokertme'
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    3. Cem Karaka - 'Uryan Geldim'
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    4. Apaslar - 'Gilgamis'
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    5. Beyaz Kelebekler - 'Esmerim'
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    6. Alpay - 'Seni Dileniyorum'
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    7. Erkin Koray - 'Sevdigim'
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    8. Ajda Pekkan - 'Kaderimin Oyunu'
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    9. Sevil & Ayla - 'Bebek'
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    10. Baris Manco - 'Hal Hal'
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    11. Rifat Oncel - 'Dosta Bizden Selam Olsun'
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    12. Ersen - 'Cakmagicak'
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    13. Onder Bali - 'Karni Buyuk Koca Dunya'
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    14. Alpay - 'Ah! Berelim'
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    15. Erkin Koray - 'Estarabim'
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    16. Ajda Pekkan - 'Iciyorum'
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    17. Arif Sag - 'Osman Ehlivan'
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    18. Ersen - 'Gunese Don Cicegim'

    link for cover & details :-

    http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/detail.asp?=Various-Artists-Bouzouki-Joe-Records-Turkish-Freakout:-Psych-Folk-Singles-1969-1980-Bouzouki-Joe-Records&UPC=BZJ7501LP

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  91. Xanthor,which title did you come up with for marthy ? TD :26 ultra rarities from beyond the sea of marmara or TD2:the swinging side of the bosphorus ?

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  92. 12(?)yrs ago,I was in touch with Dave Bass in pennsylvania (distortion records?)who asked me to do a turk comp. I said yes and came up with title TURKISH DELIGHTS (I know, not very original- I've had a dozen albums with that title). don't remember what happened, I don't thonk dave was all that interested and Marthy decided to take it back and do it himself. 'ultrararities,etc' sounds nice as a title but is pretty meaningless.

    esin afsar sounds interesting- I'll try to check it out.

    T.Freakout doesn't really look like much of a freakout but it could be worse.

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  93. xanthor fek,
    A couple of days ago I received KIZILMASKE from Ciko and just like the other fillms of theirs this one has atrociously bad subtitles!!!

    What'S the deal?? I hear from Jared (of Worldweird blog) that you offered them to help out with the English subs, and I know that my friends in the US Ian Friedman and Jared also offered to help (for free). And in reviews and forum posts I have certainly made them aware of the need to proper subs and yet they STILL keep doing the "so bad I wish they were at least as good as wonky HK subs". O_O

    People (with low attention span) who would watch one of these dvds for the first time are probably gonna dismiss them on the grounds of their being crap films (when in fact it's just the subs). Such a pity. :-/

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  94. I'm still going to get T.Freakout though.I know there's some songs that have been issued several times like gilgamis and also don't know about the ajda pekkan tunes.Ultra rarities beyond... doesn't mean shit like you said he even mispelled "Ultra rarities" as ultrarities.

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  95. 'I'm still going to get T.Freakout though.'

    better you than me...

    'I also don't know about the ajda pekkan tunes.'

    a friend worked in the studio where she recorded an album about 3 yrs ago. he doesn't like her music and expected her to be a diva; however, he said she turned out to be a very nice person and great to work with.

    "Ultra rarities beyond... doesn't mean shit like you said he even mispelled "Ultra rarities" as ultrarities."
    his english is a good match for GA's...

    in #DEV ADAM or SUPER ADAM ISTANBUL'DA there is a scene in bar with a rock band-- do you know the band/song?

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  96. 'I received KIZILMASKE from Ciko and just like the other films of theirs this one has atrociously bad subtitles!!!'

    which KIZILMASK (I have 2 differnet films of that title on VCD)?
    I have 2 of their films but only watched The Hungry Wolves, which had reasonably decent subs but could have been better.

    'What'S the deal?? I hear from Jared (of Worldweird blog) that you offered them to help out with the English subs.'

    I wish I knew. I met with Gokay last year and made this offer and he seemed interested. I've also been doing editing for 20+ years and cowrote a couple of filmscripts.
    But when I've tried to meet up with Gokay to talk about doing subs he's always been too busy. It's too bad-- I'd love to do this...

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  97. Anonymous, I forgot to mention: last week I went to see Goksel's CD release show (a friend produced her latest 2 albums, which were all cover songs). I like her CDs but her live show was great-- it seemed it must've been what it was like to see a top quality turkish pop singer back in the '70s.

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  98. The Kizil Maske they have is the Tolga Ziyal version.

    I also have the Cetin Inanc version on a boot (which has the end put back in! It's missing from the VCD).

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  99. 'I also have the Cetin Inanc version on a boot (which has the end put back in!'

    does it have subs? who/where/when was it booted?

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  100. JackJ:
    have you seen Cuneyit Arkin's credit card commercial? it is way cool. he still looks like he could kick some ass...

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  101. I didn't even know he'd done one. LOL. That boot is from Shocking Videos in the US. It doesn't have subs and I believe most of it is off the VCD and the re-inserted ending is from a vhs.

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  102. Cuneyit Arkin's credit card commercial
    can be seen here:

    http://www.timsah.com/Cuneyt-Arkin-ile-Flexi-Card-Reklami/NTMMdCaQt4Y

    thanks for info about dvd.

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  103. LOL. Thanks! He's starting to look his age now. Does he still make movies?

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  104. You're welcome!
    as far as I know he doesn't act in film or on tv anymore. the last that I know of was his appearance in the horrible sequel to DUNYA'YA KURTARAN ADAM.
    When I was working on a film project 6 yrs ago (mainly scriptwriting), I wrote a very nice juicy part for him. Aytekkin Akkaya was also gonna have a role (for what was to be a spanish-turkish coproduction). This film would've been real interesting and with a number of cult actors from around the world.

    BTW: It now looks like I will be working on improving those subtitles.

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  105. That sounds very good! Does that mean only the new subs or will you also be re-working the old ones?

    So did that Spanish-Turkish film never get made?

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  106. 'Does that mean only the new subs or will you also be re-working the old ones?'
    probably new subs; I'll have to ask if they're interested in redoing the old ones.

    'So did that Spanish-Turkish film ever get made?'
    unfortunately no. the spanish guy behind the film who I had considered a friend (I'd met him thru Metin D.) started sending me insane emails accusing me of doing absolutely ridiculous things-- all fantasies in his head. things that I'd ignored along the way (because he was a friend and because I was really psyched to be involved in this project) suddenly came into focus. when I described how this guy had been acting to a friend in the medical field, he said although he couldn't make a diagnosis, it sounded like he was paranoid delusional. after numerous threats, I jumped ship. it's a shame: we had $1.5 million (needed $750,000 more), (possibly) an exciting international cast, and a very good & strange script with hints of the supernatural; and it was to be shot in Istanbul and eastern turkey. it would've looked great, would've had some cool humor, and I would've made my silver screen debut. he really screwed up a great opportunity.

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  107. Jesus! How totally and utterly weird!! @_@

    A damn shame it never got made.

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  108. 'Jesus! How totally and utterly weird!! @_@'
    definitely; I was suppose to be cowriting with him, but for 3 years I did all the writing. then suddenly he throws out the best 50 pages of the script and turns it into a pro-environmental diatribe in which my character was changed into someone with a machete who offs despoilers of the environment. all the wit and entertainment gone.
    'oh the horror... the horror...'
    I've got to stop now, there are just too many completely stupid and misguided things he did...

    'A damn shame it never got made.'
    Yes; and if you knew the incredible cast we could have had, and one of the best cinematographers in the world wanted to do it. Almost a total waste, except I found out that I could write a very good script.

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  109. XANTHOR,shame about that film you wrote the script for, that never got made.It might've put turkish cult flicks on the map instead of those arty films that win awards.What was the basic storyline without giving too much away ?
    Like I said before, I'm buying anything that's claimed to be turkish psych good or bad .THe vinyl release of TUr.frkout will have an exact repro of an okay temiz 45 as a bonus.Okay"s stuff is mostly hit and miss but he has some good grooves that deserve to be reissued, like for example the Zikir album.
    Xanthor, haven't seen that flick you mentioned dev adam aka superman in istanbul.I think there's a trailer for it on one of those early Onar dvd releases !!
    How about switching to the deathless devil thread ? This one is getting to be too long!!

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  110. 'How about switching to the deathless devil thread'

    I did. I made 2 comments half an hr ago but no email notification has shown up though the comments are there.

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