Ciko (the guys behind the subtitled TURKISH STRAW DOGS dvdr release) just informed they they are now selling quite a few Turkish posters as well. Both for Turkish and non-Turkish films. You can check them out at their TURKISH CULT store on eBay here.
hey Jack,
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for your post,
Also I would like to inform that we'll do vhs tapes auction from Cuneyt Arkin, Cetin Inanc, Turkish Fairy Tale Adaptations and Anatolian Westerns very soon.
regards,
XANTHOR !!!! Continue on with this thread.
ReplyDeleteI just watched a couple of Turkish films yesterday.Veda Busesi and Ezo Gelin.The first is a romantic melodarama about a man with a disfigured face marrying a beautiful poor girl(Turkan Soray) who can't stand the sight of his face and the second was a typical rural melodrama starring fatma girik,don't know if this film could be called an anotolian western but it has some of the elements of one ??
Both were enjoyable but I don't think readers of this blog would be all that interested in these 2 movies as they don't have any fantastic elements in them !!!
Gokay,
ReplyDeleteNo worries, mate. Good luck with the VHS auctions! Should be interesting!
ATTENTION TURKISH CULT !!!!!!!! What sort of turkish fairy tale tapes are you going to sell on auction ?? If i had loads of cash I'd buy all your posters and dvds but I'm broke so hopefully you'll still have a few of these tapes early next year ??
ReplyDeletehi friends,
ReplyDelete@Jack: Yes Jack, we were researching interesting tapes for a couple of weeks and its result will be so funny.
@Anonymus: Thanks for your interesting, we'll put Kulkedisi - Turkish Cinderella vhs, Salih Guney (Kaptan Swing)in lead role. I really don't know that we can have same posters and vhs at next year by now.
Anonymous:I hate google: why can't they ever remember my password?
ReplyDelete'odeon cd is easier to find on ebay.'
I can't use ebay (paypal sucks!!!!!).
re: fatma girik: I use to know a very good friend of hers and had an interesting story here but it got lost with the google bullshit. maybe I'll rewrite tonite when I have more time.
Why can't you use PayPal? If it's because PayPal don't operate in Turkey all you need is an American credit card like Visa and then you just set it up with PayPal America. That's what I did years ago when Danish banks didn't wanna touch PayPal.
ReplyDeleteJackJ:'Why can't you use PayPal?'
ReplyDeleteI have no idea: I've had an account for years that they have never let me use (and it was set up when I had an American credit card). 3 times in the last 9 months I've emailed them to ask why and what I can do to use it, but these assholes refuse to even respond (and have never responded over the past 9 years).
xanthor !!! Hopefully your fatma girik story isn't scandalous.I really don't like reading negative gossip.
ReplyDeleteThat odeon cagdas oyun havalari cd is one my favourites at the moment.There's only a couple of dud tracks on it and the rest is pretty cool.
TURKISH CULT !!! Sinderella kulkedisi sounds fine and also Pamuk prenses snow white would be great too !!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: 9 yrs ago I met a very good friend of fatma girik. she'd been a well-known actress in the early '80s and married to a well known director or cinematographer. they got divorced; she was moving to england. he asked her to bring a package to London. at heathrow, she was busted for heroin (she had no idea what was in the package). in prison, she met and fell in love with a prison guard. they got married & it was widely covered in the brit tabloids (they showed me the clippings). they moved to Istanbul where I ended up working with her new husband. she now works behind the scenes in the film industry here still of fatma's. if you're interested, I can try and dig up her name and some of her films. she and her hubbie are nice people.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: I haven't given up on the Cagdas CD. I'm gonna ask a friend in the biz if he can find it for me when he next goes to Unkapani, where the vast majority of the CD companies are located.
ReplyDeleteXanthor !!! the first time i went to Turkey for a holiday in 1987.I asked around for turkish rock music in the cassette stores and they kept on showing me MFO and late 80s baris manco cassettes and crap like modern talking,johnny logan,madonna,men at work, and disco stuff.I said i wanted early turkish stuff from the 60s and 70s and they didn't know what i was talking about.Is it still much the same there ? If i knew then that there was a turkish psych/garage beat scene i would've bought up a whole lot of the stuff but ended up buying turkish cassettes of pink floyd,elvis,beatles and the stones instead.
ReplyDeletexanthor!!! Do you think one day a label like rhino records will release a turkish nuggets boxed set with say you and/or mike stax doing the liner notes??? Maybe ?? but most mainstream collectors don't know about the turkish scene except apart fom one or two artists such as selda or mustafa ozkent?? What do you think ???
ReplyDeleteXANTHOR !!! I don't know if this is of any help but you can buy it(Cagdas Oyun..) off turkish Ebay known as Gittigidiyor(translation: going going gone).link :-
ReplyDeletehttp://urun.gittigidiyor.com/RAKS-I-FASIL-CAGDAS-OYUN-HAVALARI-AMBLJNDA_W0QQidZZ23448353
Anonymous:'the first time i went to Turkey...in 1987 I asked for early turkish stuff from 60s/70s and they didn't know what i was talking about. Is it still much the same there?'
ReplyDeletewhen you were there there was almost nothing available (perhaps a few erkin or baris tapes). I was there in '88 and I wasn't aware if there were shops selling old vinyl. the '80 coup seem to wipe out peoples' memories of the old music. by '96, there were many shops selling old vinyl and erkin, baris, mogollar, 3hurel were available on CD. most vinyl shops are gone and the ones remaining know how much these old recs get around the world. in CD shops, they'll know more than what you found in '87.
'Do you think one day a label like rhino records will release a turkish nuggets boxed set?'
I sincerely doubt it. there is more than enough good stuff but trying to deal with the artists, labels, etc. makes it unlikely and I doubt that there are enough people willing to buy it.
Anonymous: I've never seen this before; check it out:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.odeonmuzik.com.tr/popfolk2.html
some interesting cuts...
XANTHOR!!! i've got those pop folk leblebi cds.They've got about 3 or 4 good tracks on each of them but the rest aren't very good examples of pop folk or anadolu pop.They really don't know how to pick them.Same goes for the bak bir varmis bir yokmus various artists pop cds.They really don't know what's good and what is kitsch.They need experts like you and me to do the song selections.HEHEHE.they always pick the songs that sound like lame eurovision entries with lalalas and tralala type crap or stuff that sounds like turkish versions of shirley bassey,sacha distel,engelbert humperdinck,nana maskouri or miriam hopkin or barbara streisand.Most of these artists have got much better songs on offer but they just don't know what quality pop songs are.What a waste fixing up and remastering crap and leaving the good stuff off.
ReplyDeleteXANTHOR!!! i've got those pop folk leblebi cds.They've got about 3 or 4 good tracks on each of them but the rest aren't very good examples of pop folk or anadolu pop.They really don't know how to pick them.Same goes for the bak bir varmis bir yokmus various artists pop cds.They really don't know what's good and what is kitsch.They need experts like you and me to do the song selections.HEHEHE.they always pick the songs that sound like lame eurovision entries with lalalas and tralala type crap or stuff that sounds like turkish versions of shirley bassey,sacha distel,engelbert humperdinck,nana maskouri or miriam hopkin or barbara streisand.Most of these artists have got much better songs on offer but they just don't know what quality pop songs are.What a waste fixing up and remastering crap and leaving the good stuff in the vaults.
ReplyDeleteXANTHOR!!! i've got those pop folk leblebi cds.They've got about 3 or 4 good tracks on each of them but the rest aren't very good examples of pop folk or anadolu pop.They really don't know how to pick them.Same goes for the bak bir varmis bir yokmus various artists pop cds.They really don't know what's good and what is kitsch.They need experts like you and me to do the song selections.HEHEHE.they always pick the songs that sound like lame eurovision entries with lalalas and tralala type crap or stuff that sounds like turkish versions of shirley bassey,sacha distel,engelbert humperdinck,andy williams,nana maskouri or miriam hopkin or barbara streisand.Most of these artists have got much better songs on offer but they just don't know what quality pop songs are.What a waste fixing up and remastering crap and leaving the good stuff in the vaults.
ReplyDeleteXANTHOR!!! i've got those pop folk leblebi cds.They've got about 3 or 4 good tracks on each of them but the rest aren't very good examples of pop folk or anadolu pop.They really don't know how to pick them.Same goes for the bak bir varmis bir yokmus various artists pop cds.They really don't know what's good and what is kitsch.They need experts like you and me to do the song selections.HEHEHE.they always pick the songs that sound like lame eurovision entries with lalalas and tralala type crap or stuff that sounds like turkish versions of shirley bassey,sacha distel,andy williams,perry como,engelbert humperdinck,nana maskouri or miriam hopkin or barbara streisand.Most of these artists have got much better songs on offer but they just don't know what quality pop songs are.What a waste fixing up and remastering crap and leaving the good stuff in the vaults.
ReplyDeleteJack !!! don't know what happened there but my message came up 4 times.If you don't mind could you delete the first three and leave the last one up.HAHA.
ReplyDeleteHope you don't mind us carrying on about Turkish music and leaving cult exploitation flicks out of the picture.lol.
Xanthor !!! Turkish rock withered away in the late 70s & early 80s not just because of the political instability but because people had grown tired of turkish psych,prog and anadolu pop.Arabesk mainly and to a lesser extent Hafif Bati Muzik (light western pop music) and disco had taken over.Also,I read that cassettes and bootlegging were another influential factor in the downfall of turkish rock music ??
ReplyDeleteAnonymous:'They really don't know how to pick them... don't know what's good and what is kitsch.They need experts like you and me.'
ReplyDeleteI agree.
my producer friend has talked to a label owner about working with me on some projects but my friend is so busy that nothing has happened since the subject came up last year.
Anonymous:'Turkish rock withered away not just because of the political instability but because people had grown tired of turkish psych,prog and anadolu pop.'
ReplyDeleteI don't agree. many musicians left Turkey because of the left/right tension or out of shear hatred for the government; some never came back, others waited 20-30 yrs; it had become dangerous to be a musician, many of whom have told me stories about evading gunfire, bombs, etc. erkin, cem karaca, members of mogollar&uc hurel, &bunalim&kurtalan express,etc. left.
I've never heard anyone say that people grew tired of psych,etc.
'Arabesk mainly and to a lesser extent Hafif Bati Muzik (light western pop music) and disco had taken over.'
these were really post-coup phenomena. '60s&'70s turk pop was very good. since the '80s, it has sucked.
'cassettes and bootlegging were influential factors in the downfall of turkish rock music.'
not just rock, the music biz in general. everything got booted, everyone got ripped off.
xanthor I agree with what you said but turkish psych was bound to decrease in popularity even without the coup.Yep they were pretty dangerous times with the left and right wing political unrest and violence.I was trying to point out that there were other reasons apart from the obvious that led to the decline of turkish psych.Like you said psychedelia lasted the longest in turkey by more than a decade.
ReplyDeleteXanthor,It would be great if someone like you were hired to compile turkish rock and pop cds for companies like odeon and ossi muzik.Then maybe these turkish cds would sell well abroad.A lot of those tracks on those retro 60s/70s pop cds are really embarassing to listen to.The traditional turku and sanat reissue music cds are pretty good but when it comes to rock and pop they don't have an ear for the music at all.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous:'It would be great if someone like you were hired to compile turkish rock and pop cds.'
ReplyDeletethanks...I agree. I've been waiting to have a meeting with one label for 8 months.
we're both right about the decline of turk psych. have you heard REPLIKASS-
AVAZ. I think its the best turkish album in 30 years and perhaps the best psych album anywhere of the 21st cent.
XANTHOR!!! Here's another compilation cassette I'm trying to make from mp3s,records,cassettes and cds.Don't have a title for it but I might call it 'freakbeat sultans' or maybe 'technicolor tulips part 2' or maybe 'Love and Peace in the Year 2023' or maybe not.haha :-
ReplyDelete1 baris manco- ne ola yar ola
2 esin afsar & kurtulan ekspres-gunese giden gemi
3 zafer dilek-cicek dagi
4 cem karaca-cokertme
5 siluetler-dede efendi version 2
6 selda-hasan kalesi
7 ersen- dostlar beni hatirlasin
8 fikret kizilok-sevda cicegi
9 deniz erkanat-helal olsun(for your information)
10 parla senol-su basima gelenleri
11 perihan-nerden nereye
12 senay-gercek nerede
13 kamuran akkor-yorgun gozleri
14 erkin koray-seni her gordugumde
15 bunalimlar-basak saclim
16 mogollar-garip coban
17 edip akbayram- daglar dagladi beni
18 azziz azmet & bunalimlar-hele hele gel
19 mazhar ve fuat-hekimoglu
20 yurdaer dogulu-yagmur
21 ilhan irem-anlasana
22 baris manco-aynali kemer ince bele
23 timur selcuk orkestra-bengiz
24 cahit oben-karakoyun
25 hakki bulut-ben koyluyum
26 hulya(kirbag)-baharin geldigi
27 emin findikoglu(featuring nathan davis)-cecen kizi
28 rana alagoz-askin gozu kormu
29 umit aksu orkestrasi-ararim
30 mogollar-ilgaz(lp version)
This is not really a turkish psych comp but more of a 70s grooves one.I've included more female singers on this tape.
I haven't heard the relikas lp avaz yet or the zen or baba zula stuff.maybe a best of 1990s-2000s turkish rock/psych compilation is needed too ?
ReplyDeleteBTW I meant to put karacaoglan by cahit oben on that cassette compilation not karakoyun.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous:'I haven't heard relikas lp avaz yet or zen or baba zula... maybe a best of 1990s-2000s turkish rock/psych compilation is needed.'
ReplyDeleteI agree; but not by me. I was working on a comp but didn't get enough good stuff; then decided to do a dvd but gave up after 3 yrs as I again didn't get enough good stuff from bands (by doing a dvd I could avoid record labels). its too bad cause I had a label in US that wanted to do it...twice replikas came close to having that album released in the US-- it's a shame that it didn't happen. after 3 yrs, I only had about 20-30 min of decent material... as far as ZeN-- the album to get is the live at bakirkoy mental hospital; for baba zula-- the tabuta rovasata soundtrack is great psych and half of it is not in the film. their next album (and their 1st on double moon is also excellent-- after that...
yr comp looks interesting; maybe call it "Between the Coups: the end of turkish pop music."
Anonymous: I forgot to mention HAYVANLAR ALEMI who are from Ankara and will have an album released this year on SUBLIME FREQUENCIES.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: I finally got my girlfriend to checkout that gittigidiyor site for the CAGDAS CD but she couldn't figure it out either and they don't list a price. she doesn't think its a normal mail order site.
ReplyDeletegittigidiyor is linked to ebay.You have to register then log in to see the price.The guy who is selling it on there is the same as the seller on regular ebay
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: last month, there was a show about MAVI ISIKLAR on tv here, which I only just found out about. would this be shown where you are?... The band also just received an Altin Kelebek award but lead singer Nejat Toksoy's daughter picked up his award for him (at least 2 other members of the band were in the photo). I've been looking to try and get back in touch with him but because of a newspaper article I thought something had happened to him. my girlfriend just translated the article-- his daughter Derya died in April at the age of 31. I knew her: about 5 yrs ago we were working at the same company. She was a wonderful person.
ReplyDeleteNo Xanthor,I haven't heard of that Mavi Isiklar doco.I don't have Turkish tv here.Only TRT Turk which is a 24 hours news & current affairs channel.We use to get TRT INT for free, which was much better for movies,music,etc.Now that channel has been cancelled and replaced with that news channel I mentioned.When i was in turkey I once saw a documentary on the Altin Mikrofon song contest about * or 9 years ago.
ReplyDeleteXANTHOR !! If you want to talk a bit more about turkish movies and music come on over to my blog.I was about to do a Mavi Isiklar thread just before I read your comment.Funny coincidence,Eh !!???
ReplyDeleteHEre's the link :-
http://ninjabutaigekko.blogspot.com/
JackJ&Anonymous:check out Derdiyoklar live at Babylon last year (about halfway down page)(and then followed by some of the pics from tha anadolu rock article):
ReplyDeletehttp://www.saisondelaturquie.fr/-turquie-express-.html?id_mot=766
to get an actual peak of the anadolu rock pics, you can download a pdf of the entire issue of 'babylon' that they appeared in at:
LHASA de SELA THE BEATLES'DAN SEX PISTOLS'A, GRUP MENAJERLERİ ...
(actually-- google my real name and this (Lhasa etc) is at the bottom of the 2nd page).
see me quoted at:
http://www.turkiyedepunkveyeraltikaynaklarininkesintilitarihi.com/sezgin-boynik-on-punk-in-turkish.php
and don't forget to buy:
ReplyDeleteSON OF BATTAL GAZI
&
HACI MOURAD IS COMING
with real english language subs from CIKO
Thanks for the tip, xanthor fek. I wanna buy ALL their releases. I just need to wait for some dough (ain't that always the case, boo-hoo. LOL). Sounds GOOD with them new and approved subs!!
ReplyDeletexanthor!! thanks for the links,I've replied to your comments on my blog,It's not up and running properly yet cos my DVDRom tray and other things are out of order.I gave the computer in for repairs before the warranty runs out.I'll do a mavi isiklar story as well , articles on sevmek zamani and erkin koray.
ReplyDeleteHI there Jack J, will start writing regularly as soon as my computer returns from the repair shop.I'm at my local library and it's hard to get bookings because they're all taken up by school kids on holidays.Hope your not gone for long.
ReplyDeleteXANTHOR!! Thanks for the links to those articles.The babylon one looks great.I'll download the whole thing onto my computer and print it out.Thanks.Some of the photos i haven't seen before.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous:'Thanks for the links to those articles.The babylon one looks great.'
ReplyDeleteyou're welcome.
You may have seen this already but the following link follows on from one of the links I sent before and you can hear how 'modern'djs/mixers can fuck up great songs with their 'modern' techniques:
http://www.saturnmuzik.com/music.html
don't know if I mentioned it before, but I now have a copy of Kemal Horulu's SOME LIKE IT VIOLENT.
I want to write an article about it for a zine here but have been unable to find any info about the film or director. on avmaniacs someone claims horulu is a pseudonym for 'karl hansen' but I can't find any info about him either. I tend to discount this cause I did find on IMDB that a short film from '66 called TURKEY THE BRIDGE, which was nominated for an Oscar, had as the assistant director: Kemal Horulu... I did find a review of SLIV in issue #7 of Shock Cinema.
Kemal Horulu was my uncle he lived in the US in the 70-90s where he was a producer of soft porn and some short films for national geographic if anyone needs more info on him you can email me james90210@me.com
Deletere: SOME LIKE IT VIOLENT: the character that steve mcqueen played in the great escape was based on the exploits of Barry mahon, producer of SLIV.
ReplyDeleteJackJ&Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteI just found my little paper about Fatma Girik's friend (who I know but last saw about 5 years ago). her name is GULNUR AKAY and she was the wife of cameraman Izzet Akay. she was an actress 30 yrs ago & is now a costume designer.
yesterday, saw a 3 or 4CD boxset on odeon &one CD is all rana&selcuk alagoz. don't know if this is good stuff or not.
BTW: THE HUNGRY WOLVES (Aci Kurtlar) is getting released on dvd with english subs, along with 2 other yilmaz guney titles on the Gala label.
xanthor fek,
ReplyDeleteThanks for that piece of info! Do you know when those subbed DVDs are going to be released?
JackJ: no idea. I checked the website but they are not listed yet.
ReplyDeletexanthor !!!! check out the mavi isiklar thread i posted on the always remember.... blog.just got my computer back yesterday and will have to catch up on everything I missed in the last 15 days.
ReplyDeleteYou didn't miss much; the world is on a break. xD.
ReplyDeleteHI there again Jack,just heard the sad news about onar films owner Bill.we all know that he will recover from his ailment and go on to release his treasured zagor films and more.
ReplyDeleteIt's winter down here and no one's on holidays except for the dole bludgers.hehehe.
Yes, very sad about Bill. But an hour ago Miltos (Bill's friend in Athens) wrote this on the Cinehound forum:
ReplyDeleteHi, first of all surgery was 100% succesful and these are great news. I just spoke with him on the phone and he sounds really fine. He'll be out of the hospital soon and I see him tomorrow (if he's not out by then...)
As for the tumor biopsy we'll know in a few days but first doctor's opinion looks good!
Jack J, thanks for the positive news on Bill's codition.Here's hoping that the biopsy shows that the tumour is a 100% benign.
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear the initial good news about Bill-- hope it continues...
ReplyDeleteas to a prior question about the new Yilmaz Guney releases, which are not listed on the GALA website:
in fact, there are FOUR of his films out with English subs. I saw them in the shops today and bought 2 of them.
Now available:
AGIT
SEYYITHAN
ACI KURTLAR
AKADASLAR
BTW: new CIKO release available tomorrow with Cuneyt, music by CAN, and some amazing stunts--you'd never get an American star to do this stuff. Cuneyt is one pissed-off cop...
Anonymous: the return of Tunay Akdeniz:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rockmedya.net/
XANTHOR!!! thanks for the link.I need some of those photos on there.Do you think it would be okay if I use some the pictures on my blog for future threads ?? hehehe.... Are you involved with this site at all ? couldn't find the Tunay Akdeniz related article maybe I'm going blind ? I downloaded that Pdf file for that Babylon article you worked on thanks again for that. cheers ,til next time...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous:I have no connection to the site; so go ahead and use the photos...
ReplyDelete"couldn't find the Tunay Akdeniz"
on the 1st page of that site, about halfway down in the right column is a little box where u can watch the tunay akdeniz video-- it is kinda small (it was bigger when I watched it on facebook)...
glad u liked the Babylon article.
JackJ: Like yr new blog! would've left a comment there but couldn't figure out how to do it.
ReplyDeleteI'm a follower there but it wouldn't let me pick a pic.
I'll be reading the stuff there over the next few days.
but haven't I seen the pic at the top before?
Thanks!! And, uh, yeah sure you've seen it before. LOL.
ReplyDeleteOn this blog I've never changed the logo so maybe I'll change it often on the other one and that pic may be gone tomorrow. And besides, everything is still on a rough cut basis. The intro isn't even finished.
You couldn't leave a comment? I'll look into it. And thanks for your comments. It's not really that I'm gonna close this blog or anything but I'd just like to write about rare/obscure/unknown films on a blog entirely devoted to those. I have a feeling they sometimes get overlooked on this blog cos they're covered (drowned) by all the OTHER stuff I post (youtube clips etc).
Alright, it's open for comments from everyone now. :D
ReplyDeleteI am Gulnur Akay, the friend of Fatma Girik, Who, I believe, someone wanted to contact me. We still live in Turkey and would be happy to chat with anyone interested in my story. Thanks
ReplyDeleteHi Gulnar,
ReplyDeleteI use to work with Roger at Academy Istanbul. Now, I'm writing. I think that I'm the one who talked about you last year. It would be great to talk.
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